Right now our goals are to provide an environment for which people can share information and participate in some activities in a legal manner. Not real sure how we will know when we have success b/c all of the things we are trying, change all the time. The strategy for us moving forward is to put much thought into the wargames. The team games have vulnerabilities in them that dont have exploits written for them yet. The idea being, you get extra points for writing an exploit and then releasing it under H3C, this brings in other people who are interested in a lot of things, up to and including writing exploits.